roundup quandary: September 2012

Sunday, September 30, 2012

Why the next civilization is NOT Rome

Last post 40 minutes ago by Raw1812. 12 replies.

Why the next civilization is NOT Rome

First and foremost I wanted to say that some people have "leaked" information, trying to proof that Rome is the next civ. However, there's no point in those "leaks":

1.) The information could simply be fake.

2.) Posting those leaks gets you banned for you trying to proof old news:

3.) There have been signs that GPG is working on a Roman civ since january and proofs could be found in their official videos.

So, we know without any leaks that Romans are being worked on.

But why aren't they the next civilization? I'm going to use official information only to proof this:

1.) They're working on a overhaul for the quest campaigns:

We also intend a major re-thinking of the structure for the existing and future campaigns to improve the "build an empire" feel of Age of Empires. Work has started on these changes?but we aren't quite ready to divulge the details. Yet.

If they're already working on it might be wise to just create the Roman campaing with that new structure in mind and just wait with their release until that structure is implemented for other civs also.

2.) They have been working on the Romans since January (see above). Developing a Pro civilization is a lot faster than developing a Premium civilization, because Premium civs usually come with new gear types and more advanced features than Pro civilizations as well as a dozens of quests. GPG worked on the Celts for nearly a year, this might also be true for the Romans. Between the release of Premium civs GPG always squeezed in a Pro civ.

3.) In the video I linked above the Roman art was already finished while they still had modelers, texturers and concept artists working on Babylonian art (you can see their Fishing Boat and Treasury being worked on amongst other things). As it totally doesn't make sense to finish one Pro civ and create another Pro civ before releasing the first, Romans must be a Premium civ.

4. In another video, they showed Rome points.? Rome is not under "shared currencies", that means it's not a shared region and definitely not a booster pack (as that'd be shared as well). It's under "region" currencies. Ever Premium civ has exactly one unique region currency. Currently there are Mycenae (Greek), Nubia (Egypt) and Massalia (Celts). The only civ that would make sense to have Rome as some sort of quest city would be the Romans themselves

5.) As Rome is a Premium civ, it cannot be the next one.

Volunteer Community Moderator,
Admin of Age Online Heaven

Age of Empires Online PvP Live Gameplay & Commentary

Re: Why the next civilization is NOT Rome

Thank you!

>I know the next civilization that will be released this fall.

Re: Why the next civilization is NOT Rome

oh my mind, idk I really don't care anymore on what the new civ is.............

but you have to keep in mind the one year delay on celts was probably the tech tree overhual and the huge chunk of changes from summer patch

still we may never know till time or the devs do its part

edit:not one year more about 3 months or so

Hooray celebrate with me!! I just earned the title of biggest noob and idiot of the year awards

Re: Why the next civilization is NOT Rome

First and foremost I wanted to say that some people have "leaked" information, trying to proof that Rome is the next civ. However, there's no point in those "leaks":

If theres no point why does it matter if we talk about it.

?
1.) The information could simply be fake.

Well if its fake then GPG can chuckle?evilly and laugh at us since they trolled us hard. Because they are the ones who ~leaked~ all of this information. The majority of the information about Rome and Babs (when it?happened) came to light when people read an XML file that came with the game. It wasn't packed in a bar file, nor was it scrambled in anyway. However discussing the contents of that file is a bannable offense.?How is it leaking when we already have the content on our machines, and can easily access it.?Worst case? Its fake, and GPG trolled us. Or the units were changed like every other game during development.

Look at Mass Effect 3 and how chunks of the story text were in the demo's data files. Did Bioware turn around and start banning everyone, from talking about it on their forums? No. Or how Deus Ex Human Revolution E3 Demo was leaked, did Eidos make talking about it a bannable offense, even though technically it was stolen? Nope, they even went so far as to encourage discussion about their game, leading to more hype.

However hypthothesising ?about the uses of the new potential units, is a bannable offense. So instead general gets filled with people crying about wanting to know who the next premium civ is, or the 50 threads?consisting?of everyone arguing and guessing over the next civilization.?Honestly what difference does it make? Would you rather people be brainstorming what is coming, or the General discussion forum to be filled with topics where everyone is arguing over who should it be.?

Now i understand that you have some exclusive agreements for people to break the news (yeah Eurogamer breaking the news about Babylon was off their front page in almost an hour). However how are you even violating any rules when you are not breaking this information early. For all we know the developers just planted that stuff there to troll us.?

Yeah we already know Rome is coming, nobody is arguing they aren't. Furthermore people aren't trying to ~prove old news~ people are trying to figure out what units/special tech is coming for Rome. However discussing any information beyond "Hurf derf rome is coming", pretty much borders on bannable.?

?
But why aren't they the next civilization? I'm going to use official information only to proof this:
1.) They're working on a overhaul for the quest campaigns:
We also intend a major re-thinking of the structure for the existing and future campaigns to improve the "build an empire" feel of Age of Empires. Work has started on these changes?but we aren't quite ready to divulge the details. Yet.
If they're already working on it might be wise to just create the Roman campaing with that new structure in mind and just wait with their release until that structure is implemented for other civs also.
2.) They have been working on the Romans since January (see above). Developing a Pro civilization is a lot faster than developing a Premium civilization, because Premium civs usually come with new gear types and more advanced features than Pro civilizations as well as a dozens of quests. GPG worked on the Celts for nearly a year, this might also be true for the Romans. Between the release of Premium civs GPG always squeezed in a Pro civ.
3.) In the video I linked above the Roman art was already finished while they still had modelers, texturers and concept artists working on Babylonian art (you can see their Fishing Boat and Treasury being worked on amongst other things). As it totally doesn't make sense to finish one Pro civ and create another Pro civ before releasing the first, Romans must be a Premium civ.
4.) As Rome is a Premium civ, it cannot be the next one.

Maybe they had problems turning Rome into a premium civilization. So they decided to make it a procivilization. Who knows? Saying otherwise is speculation. Also considering GPG has pointed out in the past they love leaving us red herrings, maybe making all that information about rome was a red herring. Who knows. Will it really?thwart?GPGs plans that people already know some of the units that Rome may possibly have?

TLDR; Butthurt.?

Re: Why the next civilization is NOT Rome

I remembered another clue that a) Rome is in the works and b) that they're a Premium civ:

Well if its fake then GPG can chuckle?evilly and laugh at us since they trolled us hard. Because they are the ones who ~leaked~ all of this information. The majority of the information about Rome and Babs (when it?happened) came to light when people read an XML file that came with the game. It wasn't packed in a bar file, nor was it scrambled in anyway. However discussing the contents of that file is a bannable offense.?How is it leaking when we already have the content on our machines, and can easily access it.?Worst case? Its fake, and GPG trolled us. Or the units were changed like every other game during development.

I never said every info is fake, and nobody ever said the developers put fake info in their files. However everyone who "leaks" something can fake it and claim it as a leak.

Look at Mass Effect 3 and how chunks of the story text were in the demo's data files. Did Bioware turn around and start banning everyone, from talking about it on their forums? No. Or how Deus Ex Human Revolution E3 Demo was leaked, did Eidos make talking about it a bannable offense, even though technically it was stolen? Nope, they even went so far as to encourage discussion about their game, leading to more hype.
However hypthothesising ?about the uses of the new potential units, is a bannable offense. So instead general gets filled with people crying about wanting to know who the next premium civ is, or the 50 threads?consisting?of everyone arguing and guessing over the next civilization.?Honestly what difference does it make? Would you rather people be brainstorming what is coming, or the General discussion forum to be filled with topics where everyone is arguing over who should it be.?
Now i understand that you have some exclusive agreements for people to break the news (yeah Eurogamer breaking the news about Babylon was off their front page in almost an hour). However how are you even violating any rules when you are not breaking this information early. For all we know the developers just planted that stuff there to troll us.
Yeah we already know Rome is coming, nobody is arguing they aren't. Furthermore people aren't trying to ~prove old news~ people are trying to figure out what units/special tech is coming for Rome. However discussing any information beyond "Hurf derf rome is coming", pretty much borders on bannable.?

The difference is that Rome is not coming very soon. There's no use hyping something that might not come out in the next three months or more. And there's no use discussing units that might very well undergo a change. Woad raiders weren't the Woad raiders we know when GPG first implemented it, Rams were an advisor units and Call to Arms worked like the one in WC3 and it wasn't a tech. Oh and GPG implemented Stone Throwers relatively late.

Maybe they had problems turning Rome into a premium civilization. So they decided to make it a procivilization. Who knows? Saying otherwise is speculation. Also considering GPG has pointed out in the past they love leaving us red herrings, maybe making all that information about rome was a red herring. Who knows. Will it really?thwart?GPGs plans that people already know some of the units that Rome may possibly have?
TLDR; Butthurt.?

Why would they? Removing content is a waste of money. There are two definite clues that Rome is a Premium civilization, and a reasonable theory on top of that. You have nothing to proof that they turned Romans into a Pro civilization.

There's not a single red herring that is in form of a screenshot or video. The only red herrings are jokes from AOEO Trajan. And most of his hints actually hinted towards the correct civ last time, not to a false one.

Volunteer Community Moderator,
Admin of Age Online Heaven

Age of Empires Online PvP Live Gameplay & Commentary

Re: Why the next civilization is NOT Rome

I agree with you 100% alex.

I am good for nothing noob player

Re: Why the next civilization is NOT Rome

Alexastor, thank you kindly for walking us through your thorough consideration of this topic. You raised some great points. Well done.?

Re: Why the next civilization is NOT Rome

I will just be happy to have 1 more marion a week, woot 6 days a week now yay me. soon 1 every day of the week. max and i will be sooooo happy. rofl

?But to OP great post loved it and a lot of great points tyvm for it.

My Leg records 100%

Paphos 29:42
Marion 44:41

Re: Why the next civilization is NOT Rome

?
I never said every info is fake, and nobody ever said the developers put fake info in their files. However everyone who "leaks" something can fake it and claim it as a leak.

Assuming they fake a leak of lets say unit information, it would take 30 seconds for someone to check the files to prove them wrong. Anyone can extract the data files (There is even a full blown tutorial on the age of empires online wiki). I could go and say i am leaking that the next civilization is X, maybe one or two people might believe me, i would get to troll some people, and then someone would point out i am lying, or they would realize it when i have 0 proof (what good is creating fake files, when someone can verify it in 30 seconds).?

?
The difference is that Rome is not coming very soon. There's no use hyping something that might not come out in the next three months or more. And there's no use discussing units that might very well undergo a change. Woad raiders weren't the Woad raiders we know when GPG first implemented it, Rams were an advisor units and Call to Arms worked like the one in WC3 and it wasn't a tech. Oh and GPG implemented Stone Throwers relatively late.

Starcraft 2 took 3.5 years from when the game was announced, to when the game was released, the game changed an insane amount units were dropped, techs were dropped, new units were added, etc. People still talked about them because you know what? Its something to talk about. Since forums are supposed to be a community for a game.?

GPG gave us all this cool information, but we aren't allowed to talk about it even though its basically sitting there asking for us to open it. That would give people something to get hyped about, who cares if the units don't make the cut, or change completely (Starcraft 2 had a ton of units cut between annoucement and release). Tons of people are waiting for Rome, to come back to play the game.?

Why would they? Removing content is a waste of money. There are two definite clues that Rome is a Premium civilization, and a reasonable theory on top of that. You have nothing to proof that they turned Romans into a Pro civilization.
There's not a single red herring that is in form of a screenshot or video. The only red herrings are jokes from AOEO Trajan. And most of his hints actually hinted towards the correct civ last time, not to a false one.

Removing content isn't a waste of money when the revenue generated from finishing it and selling it, results in a net loss.?I misspoke, i was simply implying that anything is possible, we have not heard anything about Rome in ages. Furthermore there is no mention of another premium civilization coming after this next prociv.?

The whole point i am trying to make, is this isn't a leak, merely discussing what GPG already gave us. If they didn't want to us to know about this information, then they wouldn't have:

- Left a ton of Art for Rome in the data files?

- Left Misc data files for Rome

- Put the entire roman tech tree at the time in an XML File.?Separate?from the binary files.?

You still haven't explained why letting people talk about this?publicly?available knowledge is a bad thing. I also fail to see how that is a 'bannable' offense since it hurts no one.?

Re: Why the next civilization is NOT Rome

For the developers it's important information is not leaked before any announcement to get proper media coverage and attention exactly when it is needed. And I doubt anyone will ban anyone for telling a couple of unit infos when the respective civilization is officially announced.

"They gave us to look at" and "they have better things to do, namely adding a whole lot of features, civs and content instead of hiding old data from us" is a whole lot of a difference:?

I think it might be even beneficial for you as a player not to leak any content as the developers will have to take bigger efforts to hide content, ultimately slowing down content production. And websites like the AoEO Wiki, the AoEO Database or the new AoEO Market won't be able work anymore.

And let's get back to topic please. If you have any questions about moderation decisions, feel free to PM me or any other moderators.

Volunteer Community Moderator,
Admin of Age Online Heaven

Age of Empires Online PvP Live Gameplay & Commentary

Re: Why the next civilization is NOT Rome

after reading this, i feel very happy (my guess for the civ is Phoenicia, they are a rival of Rome)?

Thank you? Yes

Chief in staff of metaphorical medal recommending
Member of the CTFC

Re: Why the next civilization is NOT Rome

now that I think about it maybe rome isn;t the new civ but maybe the booster--------the booster is on a island just like cypress but its near the itatly region soo that will fit all the puzzles and clues

Hooray celebrate with me!! I just earned the title of biggest noob and idiot of the year awards

Re: Why the next civilization is NOT Rome

I wouldn't mind if Rome were a pro civ as long as there was a unique Roman campaign. I would actually prefer this, because you already have 3 civs to learn the game with. Civs with quests that start at level 20 for more advanced players would be awesome.

Join the community team fan club!
V.P. ER QUINO86 Treasurer LifeReloaded
Un foro para los hispanos por favor.
I am PvP newb, add me for practice.

Source: http://forums.ageofempiresonline.com/forums/thread/292549.aspx

gary johnson gary johnson stephen curry hes just not that into you hes just not that into you texas longhorns texas longhorns

internet income: Make Money Online: How I Make ... - Email Marketing

Make Money Online: How I Make $1700 Plus 40 Ways to Make Money Online

List Price:

Make Money Online: How I Make $1700 Plus 40 Ways to Make Money Online

List Price:

Your Price: ? Make Money Online: How I Make $1700 Plus 40 Ways to Make Money Online

Want to make money online without getting scammed?

Is it even possible to make money on the internet? Absolutely! Here?s your How to Make Money Ebook. Legitimate ways to work from home do exist ? you just need to know where to look and what to do. Learn how I make $1700 a month plus forty ways to make money online with your computer and internet access. You can start your own online business or find online jobs. Save time and money by learning from my successes and failures over the last fifteen years. There really are websites that will pay you to work for them. No matter what your skill set, there?s something in here that will help you make money online. What are you waiting for?

Ways to Make Money Online

Discover Websites that Will Pay You
Learn How I Make $1700 A Month
Plus 40 Ways to Make Money Online

Are you asking

How to make money in your spare time
How to make money at home in your pajamas
How to make money during this recession

OR

How to make money fast and easy
How to make money from nothing
How to make money from home

WHAT ABOUT

How to make money from writing
How to make money from the internet
How to make money online

OR

How to make money out of thin air
How to make money on the internet
How to make money teaching online

OR

How to make money tomorrow
How to make money without money
Any of these

Your Price: ? Make Money Online: How I Make $1700 Plus 40 Ways to Make Money Online

This entry was posted in Email Marketing Books. Bookmark the permalink.

Source: http://emailmarketing.earn-cash-make-money.net/2012/09/29/internet-income-make-money-online-how-i-make-1700-plus-40-ways-to-make-money-online/

demi moore 911 call ipo jim rome ufc on fox 2 weigh ins brandi glanville convulsions john tyler

Saturday, September 29, 2012

China Saves Liberty?

By Glenn Pew, Contributing Editor, Video Editor

Details of a deal announced earlier this month show that a Chinese city may be single handedly resuscitating Liberty Aerospace with a $28 million deal that includes the purchase of 50 Liberty XL2s. To put that into perspective, GAMA's 2011 Year-End shipment report lists a total of three XL2 two-seat side-by-side low-wing trainer deliveries for 2011 -- all of which took place in the first quarter. Through the first two quarters of 2012, Liberty shipped no XL2s, according to GAMA. Now, Wuhan, China, has agreed to purchase 50 XL2s plus 50 four-seat helicopters from other manufacturers. The deal was announced by officials from Wuhan and Federal Aerospace Holdings Group with a promise of "bringing jobs back to America."?

The population of Wuhan is roughly 10 million and it is a major transportation hub in central China recently identified by the Chinese government as "an aviation city," according to a press release describing the deal. The arrangement provides obvious inroads for Liberty in China. General aviation in China is expected to grow after the Chinese government opens airspace to general aviation aircraft in 2015. Current plans include training Chinese pilots in the U.S. and Chinese officials have reportedly toured the Florida Institute of Technology's flight operations building as well as Bristow Academy. Earlier this month, a Chinese delegation of five also toured aviation companies in Florida and flight schools in relation to the deal.

JavaScript Menus and DHTML Menus Powered by Milonic

Source: http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/news/wuhan_china_liberty_xl2_purchase_florida_207416-1.html?CMP=OTC-RSS

powerball Melky Cabrera Mayim Bialik Rich Kids of Instagram felix hernandez Ron Palillo julia child

Oil prices march upward for second day

BANGKOK (AP) ? Hopes that the global economy might see some improvement after Spain announced far-reaching steps to fix its ailing economy helped keep oil prices on the upswing for a second day.

Benchmark oil for November delivery was up 47 cents to $92.32 per barrel at midday Bangkok time in electronic trading on the New York Mercantile Exchange. The contract rose $1.87 to finish at $91.85 per barrel on the Nymex on Thursday.

Brent crude gained 32 cents to $112.33 on the ICE Futures Exchange in London.

"Risk appetite improved yesterday on the Spanish budget," analysts at Credit Agricole CIB in Hong Kong said in a market commentary. "With the Spanish budget paving the way for an official bailout request ... renewed concern about the Eurozone crisis has eased."

After three straight days of declines, oil posted gains in Asia on Thursday, helped by expectations the People's Bank of China will soon take more steps to stimulate the world's No. 2 economy. Spain later announced severe budget cuts intended to convince the world that it can meet deficit-reduction targets.

Still, oil analyst Stephen Schork said he expects "high volatility" as oil contracts for October expire.

In other Nymex trading:

? Heating oil rose 0.7 cent to $3.158 per gallon.

? Wholesale gasoline gained 0.8 cent to $2.905 per gallon.

? Natural gas fell 0.1 cent to $3.296 per 1,000 cubic feet, a high for the year.

Source: http://news.yahoo.com/oil-prices-march-upward-second-day-055051166.html

drew peterson joe biden Art Modell Frank Ocean Gay scarlett johansson bill clinton andy roddick

Potentially dangerous new malaria mosquito identified

ScienceDaily (Sep. 28, 2012) ? University of Notre Dame entomologists are part of a team of researchers that recently discovered a potentially dangerous new malaria-transmitting mosquito. The as yet unnamed, and previously unreported, mosquito breeds in the western areas of Kenya and has an unknown DNA match to any of the existing malaria-transmitting species.

The Anopheles species of mosquitoes which transmits malaria in Africa is already widely studied by researchers. It prefers to rest indoors during the day and feed on humans during the night. Current malaria control programs, including spraying of insecticides and using insecticide-treated bed nets, are designed with these behaviors in mind.

Although the new species has never been implicated in the transmission of malaria, new discoveries in its biting habits pose a threat because it was found to be active outdoors and prefers to bite people earlier in the evening, soon after sunset, when people are not protected by current malaria control techniques.

Neil Lobo, a Notre Dame research associate professor and Brandy St. Laurent, a former Notre Dame doctoral student, joined forces on the team of researchers that made the discovery. y Frank Collins, Notre Dame's George and Winifred Clark Professor of Biology, Collins was principal investigator of the Malaria Transmission Consortium effort funded by the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation.

The discovery was announced in a paper whose lead author was Jennifer Stevenson of the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine.

Share this story on Facebook, Twitter, and Google:

Other social bookmarking and sharing tools:

Story Source:

The above story is reprinted from materials provided by University of Notre Dame, via EurekAlert!, a service of AAAS.

Note: Materials may be edited for content and length. For further information, please contact the source cited above.

Note: If no author is given, the source is cited instead.

Disclaimer: This article is not intended to provide medical advice, diagnosis or treatment. Views expressed here do not necessarily reflect those of ScienceDaily or its staff.

Source: http://feeds.sciencedaily.com/~r/sciencedaily/most_popular/~3/FXD88XY98pc/120929140348.htm

unitarian new black panther party lost in space elizabeth banks battle royale key largo arnold palmer invitational

Friday, September 28, 2012

Home with my family on Sunday...

Hiking, biking, walking, swimming, skating, hula-hooping, frisbee, flying kites, sidewalk chalk art, crouquet, or soccer.

Go to a park near your home. Or a museum. Or an art gallery. Play board games. Go enjoy the fall colors in nature. Take pictures. Heck, paint a picture of it if you're so inclined.

The possibilities are endless. Just pick a few and do them.

- Response by utahmom, A Thinker, Female, 46-55, Managerial

Rating Received:

Source: http://www.answerology.com/index.aspx/question/3137084_Home-with-my-family-on-Sunday.html

London 2012 Soccer dwight howard Olympics closing ceremony PGA Championship 2012 John Witherspoon hope solo hope solo

Soil heat shield concept passes arc jet testing

ScienceDaily (Sep. 27, 2012) ? Arc jet testing under intense temperatures and pressures showed that heat shields made from the soil of other worlds will stand up to the conditions they would encounter plunging through Earth's atmosphere, researchers said this week.

Michael Hogue, a researcher at NASA's Kennedy Space Center in Florida, led a team of engineers as they exposed samples of heat shield materials to an intense plasma wind known as an arc jet at Ames research Center earlier this week. The 2-inch by 4-inch shaped blocks were made from different mixtures of soil simulating lunar and Martian regolith.

The scientists recorded no burn-through or uneven erosion of the surface on any of the samples through a series of progressively higher energy levels, Hogue said.

The test results mean the idea of making heat shields out of the soils, or regolith, of other planets and moons remains feasible, Hogue said.

For mission planners in the future, the concept could produce a windfall of weight savings because spacecraft could make their own shielding on planets and moons where gravity is so low that it would take little energy to lift even a massive heat shield from the surface into orbit. Lifting material from Earth's surface and gravity well requires a great deal of thrust and cost, by contrast.

Applications could include an uncrewed spacecraft molding a heat shield on a Martian moon and then riding it through the Martian atmosphere to make a landing. The same principle could be applied to a large habitation module for astronauts or any number of similar missions.

The technology remains in its infancy, but with strong test results, Hogue and his team will be able to complete a report by the end of November and apply for continued funding to develop the innovation further.

Share this story on Facebook, Twitter, and Google:

Other social bookmarking and sharing tools:

Story Source:

The above story is reprinted from materials provided by NASA.

Note: Materials may be edited for content and length. For further information, please contact the source cited above.

Note: If no author is given, the source is cited instead.

Disclaimer: Views expressed in this article do not necessarily reflect those of ScienceDaily or its staff.

Source: http://feeds.sciencedaily.com/~r/sciencedaily/~3/fcTEIzbJhu0/120927161010.htm

kevin youkilis Tropical Storm Debby fox news legend of korra lebron james magic mike trailer Alan Turing

Soil samples taken in new search for Jimmy Hoffa

Police remove two large soil samples from a Michigan home based on a tip that Jimmy Hoffa's body may have been buried there decades ago. MSNBC's John Yang reports.

By NBC News staff and wire services

Police in Roseville, Mich., drilled into the ground Friday and took soil samples in the latest effort to find the remains of notorious Teamsters boss Jimmy Hoffa.

Hank Walker/Time Life Pictures/Getty Images

Teamsters' boss Jimmy Hoffa in an undated image.

The decades-long investigation for Hoffa's body has had false leads before, and some experts are already knocking down the idea that Hoffa, who was last seen on July 30, 1975, outside a restaurant in Oakland County, Mich. -- 30 miles west of where police dug Friday -- could be buried in Roseville, a Detroit suburb.

The most recent investigation was launched after police in Roseville received a tip from a man in August who said he saw a body being buried underneath the driveway 35 years ago and "thinks it may have been Jimmy."

Police dug for about an hour and a half on Friday morning. They told NBC News' John Yang they were collecting soil samples around the home because ground-penetrating radar indicated the presence of something about two feet below the surface; officers came out of a shed with two cylindrical soil samples that were two inches in diameter and six feet long.

The soil samples are going to be hand-delivered by Roseville Police Chief James Berlin to a Michigan State University forensic anthropologist, who is expected to have the results of the samples as early as Monday afternoon. If human remains are found, the ground will be dug up.

The shed on the Roseville home's property is not the same one that was there when Hoffa disappeared in 1975, the police chief said.?

The tipster who prompted the search spoke with police on Aug. 22 and didn't come forward sooner out of fear, reported WDIV in Detroit.

Feisty and iron-willed in contract talks, Hoffa was an acquaintance of mobsters and adversary of federal officials. He spent time in prison for jury tampering.?

The day he disappeared, Hoffa was supposed to meet with a New Jersey Teamsters boss and a Detroit mafia captain. He was declared legally dead in 1982.?

Previous tips led police to excavate soil in 2006 at a horse farm more than 100 miles north of Detroit, rip up floorboards at a Detroit home in 2004 and search beneath a backyard pool north of the city in 2003.

There were even rumors that Hoffa's remains were ground up and tossed into a Florida swamp, entombed beneath Giants Stadium in New Jersey or obliterated in a mob-owned fat-rendering plant.

Roseville is one of several inner-ring communities that grew quickly as unionized auto factory workers left Detroit in search of nicer homes and bigger yards.

Get the latest on the Jimmy Hoffa search from BreakingNews.com

News of the latest search has brought attention to the mostly working- and middle-class suburb from the curious and naysayers. Slowly moving vehicles have clogged the residential street where the home sits as camera-wielding neighbors snapped photos for keepsakes.

Bill Pugliano / Getty Images

Police officials prepare to drill through a concrete driveway to obtain a soil sample that will be tested for signs of human decomposition at a site where a tipster reported that the body of former Teamster's union boss Jimmy Hoffa could be buried in Roseville, Mich.

"I believe it's him. My sister said it is, and she's a psychic," Mike Smith said after ambling up to the home Thursday and shying a bit from the yellow police tape stretched across the driveway.

One theory that has endured was that the body was beneath the foundation of a downtown Detroit hockey stadium, said 57-year-old Cindi Frank, who snapped photos Thursday of the Roseville driveway.

Stay informed with the latest headlines; sign up for our newsletter

The daughter of a unionized driver and salesman for a Detroit bakery, Frank remembers conversations about Hoffa while he was alive and rumors about his fate.

"It was a family thing. Every time we'd go somewhere we'd say, 'Hey, I wonder if Jimmy Hoffa is buried there?'" Frank said. "It's just been one of those unsolved mysteries that's gone on for 30-something years. If he show up in Roseville ..."

Recently retired Detroit FBI chief Andrew Arena is among the doubters that the latest report will check out.

Watch the Top Videos on NBCNews.com

"You've got to check it out, but this doesn't sound right," he told the AP. "The working theories that have developed over the years, this really doesn't fit any of those. If this was the mob and they killed somebody, I just don't see them burying the body basically at the intersection of a residential neighborhood with this guy standing there."?

Some think the least likely spot for him to turn up might just be the place he does.

"Maybe the most inconspicuous spot might be the place to stash a body or something," said 52-year-old Andrew Kacir, who lives across from the taped off driveway.?

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

More content from NBCNews.com:

Follow US News from NBCNews.com on Twitter and Facebook

Source: http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09/28/14138624-michigan-police-send-soil-samples-to-lab-in-latest-search-for-teamster-boss-jimmy-hoffa?lite

nba all star reserves rock center christine christine will ferrell double fine adventure turbo tax

Thursday, September 27, 2012

Google buys wind power for Oklahoma data center

{ttle}

{cptn}","template_name":"ss_thmb_play_ttle","i18n":{"end_of_gallery_header":"End of Gallery","end_of_gallery_next":"View Again"},"metadata":{"pagination":"{firstVisible} - {lastVisible} of {numItems}","ult":{"spaceid":"97490792","sec":""}}},{"id": "hcm-carousel-810413153", "dataManager": C.dmgr, "mediator": C.mdtr, "group_name":"hcm-carousel-810413153", "track_item_selected":1,"tracking":{ "spaceid" : "97490792", "events" : { "click" : { "any" : { "yui-carousel-prev" : { "node" : "a", "data" : {"sec":"HCMOL on article right rail","slk":"prev","itc":"1" }, "bubbles" : true, "test": function(params){ var carousel = params.obj.getCarousel(); var pages = carousel._pages; // if same page, don't beacon if(("_ult_current_page" in carousel) && carousel._ult_current_page==pages.cur) return false; // keep track of current position within this closure carousel._ult_current_page = pages.cur; return true; } }, "yui-carousel-next" : { "node" : "a", "data" : {"sec":"HCMOL on article right rail","slk":"next","itc":"1" }, "bubbles" : true, "test": function(params){ var carousel = params.obj.getCarousel(); var pages = carousel._pages; // no more pages, don't beacon again // if same page, don't beacon if(("_ult_current_page" in carousel) && carousel._ult_current_page==pages.cur) return false; // keep track of current position within this closure carousel._ult_current_page = pages.cur; return true; } } } } } } })); }); Y.later(10, this, function() {Y.namespace("Media").ywaSettings = '"projectId": "10001256862979", "documentName": "", "documentGroup": "", "ywaColo" : "vscale3", "spaceId" : "97490792" ,"customFields" : { "12" : "classic", "13" : "story" }'; Y.Media.YWA.init(Y.namespace("Media").ywaSettings); }); Y.later(10, this, function() {(function() { try{ if (Math.floor(Math.random()*10) == 1) { var loc = window.location, decoded = decodeURI(loc.pathname), encoded = encodeURI(decoded), uri = loc.protocol + "//" + loc.host + encoded + ((loc.search.length > 0) ? loc.search + '&' : '?') + "_cacheable=1", xmlhttp; if (window.XMLHttpRequest) xmlhttp=new XMLHttpRequest(); else xmlhttp=new ActiveXObject("Microsoft.XMLHTTP"); xmlhttp.open("GET",uri,true); xmlhttp.send(); } }catch(e){} })(); }); Y.later(10, this, function() {if(document.onclick===YAHOO.Media.PreventDefaultHandler.newClick){document.onclick=YAHOO.Media.PreventDefaultHandler.oldClick;} }); }); });

Source: http://news.yahoo.com/google-buys-wind-power-oklahoma-data-center-172605890--sector.htmljk rowling qnexa kingdom of heaven national enquirer whitney houston arizona republican debate arizona debate enquirer

Video: Gut bacteria could cause diabetes

Thursday, September 27, 2012

The number of people suffering from type 2 diabetes world-wide has risen rapidly in recent years, and scientists estimate that just as many people could be suffering from the illness without realising it. New research now indicates that your gut bacteria can reveal whether you suffer from the disease.

"We have demonstrated that people with type 2 diabetes have a high level of pathogens in their intestines," says professor Jun Wang from the University of Copenhagen's Department of Biology and Novo Nordisk Foundation Center for Basic Metabolic Research.

Important intestinal bacteria

The 1.5 kilograms of bacteria that we each carry in our intestines have an enormous impact on our health and well being. The bacteria normally live in a sensitive equilibrium but if this equilibrium is disrupted our health could suffer. In the new study, scientists examined the intestinal bacteria of 345 people from China, of which 171 had type 2 diabetes. The team managed to identify clear biological indicators that someday could be used in methods that provide faster and earlier diagnosis of type 2 diabetes.

The research, which was recently published in the scientific journal Nature, also demonstrated that people with type 2 diabetes have a more hostile bacterial environment in their intestines, which can increase resistance to different medicines.

Similar studies carried out on sufferers of type 2 diabetes in Denmark also discovered a significant imbalance in the function of their intestinal bacteria and composition. Future Danish studies will examine whether intestinal bacteria is already abnormal in people that are deemed to be at risk of developing diabetes.

"We are going to transplant gut bacteria from people that suffer from type 2 diabetes into mice and examine whether the mice then develop diabetes," says another of the lead scientists behind the project, professor Oluf Borbye Pedersen from the University of Copenhagen and centre director at LuCamp, the Lundbeck Foundation Centre for Applied Medical Genomics in Personalised Disease Prediction, Prevention and Care.

International research team investigates gut bacteria

By working together, a team scientists from the University of Copenhagen and the Beijing Genomics Institute (BGI) was able to make to several breakthroughs in the field of 'metagenomics'.

Scientists working on the EU research project MetaHIT have uncovered more than 3.3 million genes from gut bacteria found in people from Spain and Denmark. These genes could play a key role in understanding and treating a range of serious illnesses. According to Professor Karsten Kristiansen from the University of Copenhagen's Department of Biology, the recent discovery is an important step in the comprehensive international research that is currently underway to investigate the interplay between intestinal bacteria and health.

"The European and Chinese working on the MetaHIT project were able to make important new discoveries about the relationship between intestinal bacteria and health. The new discovery indicates a possible connection between type 2 diabetes and the intestinal bacteria in Chinese people," Kristiansen says.

"It is important to point out that our discovery demonstrates a correlation. The big question now is whether the changes in gut bacteria can affect the development of type 2 diabetes or whether the changes simply reflect that the person is suffering from type 2 diabetes."

###

University of Copenhagen: http://www.ku.dk

Thanks to University of Copenhagen for this article.

This press release was posted to serve as a topic for discussion. Please comment below. We try our best to only post press releases that are associated with peer reviewed scientific literature. Critical discussions of the research are appreciated. If you need help finding a link to the original article, please contact us on twitter or via e-mail.

This press release has been viewed 24 time(s).

Source: http://www.labspaces.net/123904/Video__Gut_bacteria_could_cause_diabetes

atlanta falcons space shuttle new york courtney upshaw russell wilson catch me if you can delmon young arrested the raven

Magnitude 6.3 earthquake strikes near Mexico's Baja Peninsula

{ttle}

{cptn}","template_name":"ss_thmb_play_ttle","i18n":{"end_of_gallery_header":"End of Gallery","end_of_gallery_next":"View Again"},"metadata":{"pagination":"{firstVisible} - {lastVisible} of {numItems}","ult":{"spaceid":"2145868274","sec":""}}},{"id": "hcm-carousel-2084856641", "dataManager": C.dmgr, "mediator": C.mdtr, "group_name":"hcm-carousel-2084856641", "track_item_selected":1,"tracking":{ "spaceid" : "2145868274", "events" : { "click" : { "any" : { "yui-carousel-prev" : { "node" : "a", "data" : {"sec":"HCMOL on article right rail","slk":"prev","itc":"1" }, "bubbles" : true, "test": function(params){ var carousel = params.obj.getCarousel(); var pages = carousel._pages; // if same page, don't beacon if(("_ult_current_page" in carousel) && carousel._ult_current_page==pages.cur) return false; // keep track of current position within this closure carousel._ult_current_page = pages.cur; return true; } }, "yui-carousel-next" : { "node" : "a", "data" : {"sec":"HCMOL on article right rail","slk":"next","itc":"1" }, "bubbles" : true, "test": function(params){ var carousel = params.obj.getCarousel(); var pages = carousel._pages; // no more pages, don't beacon again // if same page, don't beacon if(("_ult_current_page" in carousel) && carousel._ult_current_page==pages.cur) return false; // keep track of current position within this closure carousel._ult_current_page = pages.cur; return true; } } } } } } })); }); Y.later(10, this, function() {Y.namespace("Media").ywaSettings = '"projectId": "10001256862979", "documentName": "", "documentGroup": "", "ywaColo" : "vscale3", "spaceId" : "2145868274" ,"customFields" : { "12" : "classic", "13" : "story" }'; Y.Media.YWA.init(Y.namespace("Media").ywaSettings); }); Y.later(10, this, function() {(function() { try{ if (Math.floor(Math.random()*10) == 1) { var loc = window.location, decoded = decodeURI(loc.pathname), encoded = encodeURI(decoded), uri = loc.protocol + "//" + loc.host + encoded + ((loc.search.length > 0) ? loc.search + '&' : '?') + "_cacheable=1", xmlhttp; if (window.XMLHttpRequest) xmlhttp=new XMLHttpRequest(); else xmlhttp=new ActiveXObject("Microsoft.XMLHTTP"); xmlhttp.open("GET",uri,true); xmlhttp.send(); } }catch(e){} })(); }); Y.later(10, this, function() {if(document.onclick===YAHOO.Media.PreventDefaultHandler.newClick){document.onclick=YAHOO.Media.PreventDefaultHandler.oldClick;} }); }); });